Monstrous Dick and Running Liz
"Former Vice President Dick Cheney 'a strong believer' in waterboarding"
WASHINGTON - Former Vice President Dick Cheney reiterated his praise for waterboarding Al Qaeda terrorists on Monday, calling it a "well done" technique that gathered valuable information from unusually bad guys. "I'm a strong believer in it," Cheney told a National Press Club audience. "I thought it was well done."
I'd like to see those well done techniques used instead on unusually bad guys who were occupying our White House...if it's as effective as Sick Dick claims, (contrary to expert opinions) we might find out the truth about 9/11, the torturing, the rigged linking of Saddam to 9/11 that he now claims he never even intimated, let alone insisted existed...day in and day out until we attacked Iraq. Dick has gone from believing waterboarding is a "no brainer" in October 2006 to strongly believing in it now.
Cheney answered written questions after speaking at a ceremony for reporting awards named for the late President Gerald Ford, whom Cheney served as White House chief of staff. Cheney said the controversial policy of simulating drowning grew out of a CIA request for guidance on "what can you do that's appropriate and what you can do that's not appropriate."
I believe the "questions" were written by Dick himself. BTW, when is torture EVER "appropriate" for ANYONE? Is he saying the CIA begged for "guidance" on whether or not they could waterboard? Is he claiming the CIA wasn't aware of international laws regarding torture; The Geneva Convention? Is he claiming the CIA didn't know that we had hung Nazis as well as Japanese War Criminals for waterboarding because IT IS TORTURE? It seems more like Dick, Don, Fredo and Dubya were testing the waters to see what they could get away with "legally" to satisfy their sadistic need to inflict pain and suffering upon other people, guilty and/or innocent alike.
Notwithstanding Cheney's enthusiasm, waterboarding was banned by the Bush administration in 2003. President Obama has said waterboarding is torture and repugnant to American values. Cheney remains unconvinced. "I don't believe that we engaged in torture," he argued.
The rest of the world "believes" we tortured people. The folks at Gitmo, Abu Ghraib and the other facilities in which we tortured them "believe" they were tortured. By now, FINALLY, most Americans "believe" we were torturing detainees. Yet Cheney "believes" we didn't engage in torture. What he "believes" is irrelevant. Torture was committed in our name. Everyone but those who perpetrated and helped enable it "believes" it WAS and IS torture. WE broke international laws. And from the looks on Rumsfeld's sickening face, Cheney's cruel mug, and Dumbya's gleeful cheery countenance while they talk about it they too "believed" they were torturing people, or else why bother to do it? They CLEARLY enjoy doing it to other people, I "believe", if you will. It's time to try out all these techniques on Dick and Liz Cheney since they don't "believe" any of it was really torture. Perhaps they could prove to us how it's really not torture at all. We'll start out with the easy ones...being chained to a wall naked with bags over their heads and snarling dogs very nearby, kept awake for eleven days in a row and not allowed to move...just for starters. I "believe" it will give them far more credibility. Hannity can join them to help prove we didn't actually torture anyone and that instead they were all very "well done" non-painful activities to which the detainees looked forward as part of a fun vacation at a resort; along with all that fabulous medical care, those yummy meals, the delightful hotel spa-like atmosphere at Gitmo.
GOP Senator John Ensign wants to keep Gitmo open until the war on terror is over as all those detainees will immediately head here to kill us all, He said he was impressed by conditions at the prison and that average Americans would be "outraged because the kind of treatment they get is certainly not only better than anybody in an American prison, but they get better health care than the average American citizen does."
"Their food is better than the food that they fed us as senators and staff that went down," he said. Gosh, sign me up...I need some excellent medical care and some awesome food. Perhaps he should ask himself why we Americans get such lousy health care instead? Nah, that might tax his little brain too much to "get" what he said.
Unlike many of his predecessors, the ex-veep has taken a high public profile since leaving office, criticizing the Obama administration for deciding to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and charging that Obama's policies have made America more vulnerable to another mass-casualty terrorist attack like 9/11.
Gee, we never even SAW him for eight years, didn't know where he was, what he was up to, unless he shot somebody and even then it was a day later (after he'd sobered up?) that his "representatives" went public and his victim Whittington APOLOGIZED for being in the way; but now Dick's on the boob toob along with his daughter 24/7 criticizing Democrats and casting aspersions on the voters for choosing such a dangerous man as Obama to be our Commander in Chief over the psychopathic McSame. At least THIS time the electorate sort of got to decide, unlike in 2000 when our choice in Florida was overturned by the Supreme Court and 2004 when Ohio had all those mysterious problems. The speed with which Kerry conceded gave me whiplash but wasn't a surprise at all. Dick's attacks on the Obama administration are unprecedented in their viciousness and frequency...and so soon after Inauguration Day too. Gore didn't start to speak out publicly regarding the Bush administration for three years. And he was correct. Dick waited a couple of WEEKS before commencing with his lying. In the interim he had henchmen such as drug addict Rush Limbaugh carry his water for him along with the rest of right wing radio and TV. Newt the thrice-married philanderer who was removed as Speaker and had to pay a $300,000 ethics fine is on TV just about every day pretending he has virtues and a right to speak out; Steele is out there almost every day at the very least apologizing to Rush Cyst-Boy Limbaugh, and the usual GOP thugs are doing their thing, attack, attack, attack and of course, obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Do they EVER stop whining and lying? No.
He summoned up grim memories of that day in defending waterboarding, domestic surveillance and other controversial Bush programs.
Grim memories for whom. Surely not for HIM. He just saw "opportunities" coming his way. His commentary included FISA? Yup, spying upon other Americans (apparently just the Democrats) is justifiable in his opinion since we're all terrorists because we don't agree with him. He got that unconstitutional atrocity passed due to DINO help...unforgivable. DINOs are almost as bad as Republicans...and in some ways worse because they pretend to BE Democrats; wolves in sheep's clothing. At least if there's an "R after the politician's name we KNOW what we're dealing with. DINOs have no right to a "D" after their name. Maybe an "RD" for proper identification purposes.
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We need to purge the Democratic Party of those non-Democrats. They set themselves up to be blamed by wing nuts for the actual torture of detainees and then for being complicit in illegal wiretapping of U.S. citizens. They voted along with the GOP to allow Dick, Fredo, Don, George et al to do whatever the hell they wanted. They fell for all of it...hook line and sinker. Not only are they traitors to our party but they're idiots too. They couldn't see a set-up if it bit them on the ass.
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"I looked at the world the morning after 9/11, and what I saw was 16 acres of ashes in downtown New York City," he recalled. "You could, if you looked closely enough on television, see footage of American citizens jumping out of windows on the upper stories of the Trade Center because it was better than being burned to death."
So he had a TV in the White House Presidential Emergency Operating Center (tuned in to Faux Gnus his fave, no doubt) where he and Lynne, Condi too, were supposedly on top of the whole situation. Yet, our Air Force failed to intercept any of the hijacked planes? For some unknown reason our military, the best trained in the world, didn't scramble immediately per SOPs upon being informed of the FIRST hijacked plane, instead, per Cheney, Bush supposedly ordered them to scramble from Air Force One much later? There should have been no need for that order if it happened that way...as Cheney claims...it should have happened automatically. This topic is for another post but for now just label me (if you must) extremely "skeptical". I don't believe the "official story"...it's not as if Dick and Dubya can be held up as the world's finest most ethical moral men and the most honest truth tellers. They open their mouths....lies just automatically pour out.
Let's not forget the history of the Bush family and the FACT Don and Dick were in the White House to urge Ford to pardon Dick Nixon. Watergate was training ground for those crooks...and Ford wasn't bright enough to know he was being totally used by thugs. They were several steps ahead of him. His "job" was to sell the American public on the notion that it would be too disruptive to prosecute Nixon, that we couldn't handle it as a nation. That to follow up on Dick Nixon's crimes wasn't worth the trauma it would cause Americans and that it would distract us from getting on with the running of the country. It worked. However, we were capable of multi-tasking and we still are. We can prosecute criminals and get on with our current problems as well. Ford's failure to allow us to hold Nixon accountable for his crimes only opened the door for the thugs including the Bush Crime Family to get stronger....we ended up with even worse crimes being committed in our names. If Obama does the same thing and allows the Bush/Cheney administration to "walk" we'll have lost ALL credibility with the rest of the world and the true terrorists, The Bushes, Dick and Don, will have won.
As for Dick looking at the world on 9/12...it was via TV too. Dick sure as hell wasn't out there on the streets of New York surveying the damage first hand the next day as he intimates, he was back at one of his undisclosed locations. On 9/11 Dubya, on Air Force One, went to meet with several WTC CEOs conveniently gathered in Omaha "out of harms way", while Dick was technically "in charge" on 9/11 and our Air Force seemingly stood down. How else can we explain the incredibly long delay in a response of any kind by our Air Force?
Under the circumstances, "We would have been absolutely, totally irresponsible if we hadn't taken the view that we had to do everything in our power in order to prevent that next attack," Cheney added.
What NEXT attack did he mean? The other three hijacked planes on 9/11 or some "other" next attack? Instead of fighter planes arriving immediately in NY to intercept the second plane...they just didn't. Why not? And the third plane, or the fourth? It was up to the passengers to deal with the situation? Oh, and 9/11 happened on THEIR watch. The first attack wouldn't have happened at all if George W. Bush hadn't DELIBERATELY IGNORED the intelligence he received the month before while vacationing in Crawford, Texas. Bin Laden determined to attack...even Condi had to admit that one in front of Congress...using the lamest of all lame excuses that nobody could possibly have anticipated an air attack on American soil.
He admitted he has zero "tolerance or patience" for second-guessers.
And zero tolerance or patience for anyone who ever disagrees with him on ANY topic...he's a brutally cruel fat little man with nothing on his mind but hatred and control. His response to questions..."Go fuck yourself!" or "So?" Again, facts. Yeah, I kinda see his point, I have zero tolerance or patience myself for second-guessers like Dick and Liz who are NOT privvy to the same intelligence the Obama administration is now, and I have even less tolerance and patience for total liars...both of them qualify for my wrath as they lie like rugs each time they part their sneering lips.
"If I had it to do all over again, I would do exactly the same thing. ... Those individuals who wished us harm and who were prepared to kill thousands of Americans ... got what they had coming to them," he said.Um, does he mean the Iraqis or the Saudis? We were attacked by Saudi Arabians on 9/11 and they all supposedly died in the ensuing explosions. Who exactly was it who "got what they had coming to them?" Iraqis plucked off the streets? Afghanis dragged out of their own houses? Canadians who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? Who exactly "got what they had coming to them"...all our detainees since 9/11? Anyone who ever contradicted Dick? Anthrax, anyone?
On other topics, Cheney opposed Obama's decision to force General Motors into bankruptcy - "Some companies succeed, and some companies fail" -
Dick's no-bid contracts for Halliburton and KBR definitely didn't fail...they made a financial killing as successful companies whose headquarters (Halliburton) are now in Dubai. Dick's bailout of his Wall Street buddies didn't seem to bother him...just any company with union workers' jobs at stake. The hypocrisy and lies are just phenomenal, and to think that they've gotten away with any or all of it is untenable and simply unacceptable. Have people simply forgotten the HUGE amounts of money they insisted upon "to support the troops", $700 Billion twice late last year, where did all that money go? Certainly not to protect our troops on fourth and fifth rotations...but to help Dick's "companies" make more and more profits at the expense of our military and their families.
And on he went, expressing his opinions...unchallenged...as usual. Yes, Dick...your opinions are SO well respected. That barn door can't be closed, the horses have already bolted. He took the time to slander President Obama's HIGHLY qualified Supreme Court nominee, Judge Sonia Sotomayor. Perhaps he feels his own court cases will end up in front of the Supreme Court after he's officially charged as a war criminal and traitor to the United States so he desperately needs as many Scalias on the court as possible to keep his pasty ass out of jail the same way they got it into our White House in the first place.
-and predictably disagreed with Judge Sonia Sotomayor's nomination to the Supreme Court.While it's Obama's prerogative to name whoever he wishes, Cheney noted, "I don't think I would have nominated her."
"Nothing personal against the nominee," he carefully added. "The President's made his call. ... He won the election. ... But if it were my nomination to make, I think I would have gone with somebody with a little more conservative bent."
Nothing personal Dick? First of all it wasn't your nomination to make even if you were still Vice President, that's the titular President's job. Dick would have chosen somebody "bent" more like activist judge Scalia with whom he goes shooting? Somebody conservatively bent like Alito who stated his Italian-American status made a difference and would make him a better SC judge, Clarence Thomas, rumored to be an African American, who claimed his pulled-up-by-the-bootstraps-via-affirmative action struggles would make him more fair? Or Roberts the religious wing nut? So, somebody whose rigidity and total lack of compassion for anyone who "thinks" differently from the way they do would have been preferable to Dick? What a surprise. Dick would MUCH prefer another Supreme Court justice who favors corporations' over people's rights. But so much more importantly, Dick would have chosen a nominee who will favor HIM and HIS needs over the people of the United States if he has to rely upon them down the road.
My advice to Dick : Keep on talking. You're brilliantly helping to finish off the GOP. Anyone who agrees with you is also an asshole, including George and the rest of the "administration" from hell, war criminals all.
My advice to Liz: Keep on yammering away about how we didn't torture and how your "father" is such a swell guy. Keep creating those lovely sound bites for when you run for office. Will it be the House or the Senate or Veep to Jebby-the-pig-nosed-boy? Daddy can get you LOTS of donors. He can threaten them with his shotgun if they don't donate to the Liz Cheney for next biggest asshole in politics campaign.. Release ALL the memos, ALL the evidence Dick claims exonerate his actions. ALL OF IT. He and Liz only want "selected" memos released...she's quite the little sidekick, "rhymes with witch" as Bar would say.
Yup, I'd bet my last dollar she's running...maybe an interim "job" in Congress...and then.....
Liz called President Obama "un-American" and ridiculously says Obama Finds it "Fashionable to Side with Terrorists". Fashionable? Is she just as insane and cruel as her old man? Apparently so. Lynne's no softie either. She's hard as nails and writes porn to boot. A morally bankrupt "family" just as bad as the BFEE. But keep it coming Liz, it really does dig a deeper hole for "dad" and his future.
Poppy and Shrub want Jeb to run for president to continue the BFEE Dynasty.
Jeb Would Make a 'Great President,' Bush Says
By Bill Brubaker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 11, 2006
The second -- and current -- President Bush suggested yesterday that his younger brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, would make a "great president." "I would like to see Jeb run at some point in time, but I have no idea if that's his intention or not," Bush said in an interview with Florida reporters, according to a story on the St. Petersburg Times Web site.
If that sounds familiar, the Bush brothers' father, former president George H.W. Bush, made a similar statement last year, telling CNN's Larry King that Jeb Bush would be "awfully good" as president.
"This guy's smart, big and strong. Makes the decisions," the first President Bush said then.
Cheney has the perfect VP choice for him. Bush/Cheney in 2012? Eight more years of BFEE/Cheney rule? Our nation will never survive such a travesty.
Liz Cheney considering run for public office?
"She’s awesome. Everyone wants her to run," said a close friend. [...]
"She’s a chip off the block!" said a longtime friend. [...]
"It’s a two-fer. She comes off a bit better than he does sometimes," a conservative consultant said.
Asked about the possibility that Liz Cheney might make a run for office, Republican operative Karl Rove responded, "She might!"
Daddy has the bucks and inside information on how to lie really, really well...Dick could make it happen. She's got "Conservative" support already. You betcha!
Conservatives: Liz Cheney Should Run for Office
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A forceful defender of the administration and her dad, Liz Cheney has been appearing on TV with greater regularity. She brings to the screen a combination of her dad's steely focus and her mom's softer touch. "It's a two-fer. She comes off a bit better than he does sometimes," a conservative consultant said.
Some supporters want her to continue in her role and suggested to Whispers a battle plan for the coming year:
"She could start with a major speech on national security," said one. "Heritage [the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank] could have her in for a big speech on national security. C-SPAN would cover it for sure." After that she could set up shop in one of the think tanks and build a base of support and knowledge that would put her in position to take a major position in a future Republican administration. She is a former Bush State Department aide, and some people are even suggesting that she consider doing more military policy so that she could take the policy under secretary's position in a Republican administration when her children are older. Clearly, those supporters are looking past a two-term Obama administration.
I'm sure she already has a nanny or two. So they'll run in 2012 if right wing radio and TV can smear Obama enough to take him down in time, but definitely by 2016 if they can't "fix" it soon enough. All Lizzie has to do is run for a "lesser" position to flesh out her barbaric resume between now and 2016. The Bushes and the Cheneys have NO intention of going gently into that good night. They'll crush anyone's balls who gets in their way.
How bloody DARE she make these statements!! Obama is "siding with the terrorists", not supporting the military and making us more vulnerable to attack? Fuck you, Liz!
Liz Cheney: Obama Finds It Fashionable To Side With Terrorists
Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter, Liz Cheney, accused Barack Obama of finding it "fashionable" to "side with the terrorists"...on Fox News. Continuing a media blitz in defense of the Bush administration's interrogation policies, Cheney accused the current president of making the country more vulnerable to attack and not supporting the military. By disclosing photos of detainee treatment -- which the Obama White House has been compelled to do by court order -- she proclaimed the president was aiding and abetting those determined to attack the United States.
"I think that it is really appalling that the administration is taking this step," she said. "I have not seen the pictures, I don't know what is in them. But clearly what they are doing is releasing images that show American military men and women in a very negative light.
At least she admits that the American men and women who were doing her dad's bidding under orders were indeed doing something in a very negative light.
And I have heard from families of service members, from families of 9/11 victims, this question: When did it become so fashionable for us to side, really, with the terrorists? For us to put information out that hurts American soldiers." "If [the president] really cared about" about these soldiers, Cheney concluded, he wouldn't be releasing these photos that show them "in a negative light."
Twice she admits that those photos cast American activities in a negative light...but it's Obama's fault, not her dad's. She's as good as her old man at twisting the truth into "beliefs" and "I think" and putting out false statements based solely on her "views" without allowing any questioning of the validity of her lies. FACT: We tortured. The pictures have already been released and probably "recruited" many more terrorists than if we HADN'T tortured anyone. She should be blaming "dad" for creating more terrorists. Which "family members" of 9/11 victims would call up Liz to complain? She fails to mention the 9/11 victims family members who still BLAME Cheney for creating more terrorism and for torturing people "in our name"...they surely didn't ask our government to crush the testicles of young men in front of their parents to make up for their losses. As for supporting our troops...KBR, the subsidiary of Halliburton who won the no-bid contract to supply our troops have given them electric shocks while they shower, contaminated food and water, inadequate armor, and when they return to the U.S. no support from the VA because Dick and George CUT the budget for veterans. But as I've said many times before, this is perfect for her run for office. Lovely sound bites just like her father's, Democrats will get you attacked, killed, ruined by terrorists; take all your money; take your stuff; enable all terrorists; turn us into a Communist country, take your guns, take your Bible, be mean to you, enable "old Europe" to ridicule you; humiliate you in the eyes of the world and show you in a negative light. Perfect for her run for office. She and Jeb would be the perfect GOP ticket for 2012 and/or 2016. Also as I've said many times, Jeb isn't going anywhere...he'll be running for Prez. mark my words. Not that anyone has marked them before as I've said ad nauseum: They WILL run Jeb and Liz would be his perfect sidekick. Absolutely a dream ticket. (Sorry, Sarah, too bad about that teen pregnancy spanner in the works...hahaha.)
The flame-throwing remarks came on the heels of similar statements Cheney made during an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
Formalities were left at the door. "We are seeing a situation where this administration, for some reason, continues to release information that is helpful to the terrorists," Cheney declared. "Releasing details about what was involved in the enhanced interrogation program, releasing the techniques involved in that program, helps the terrorists. It helps them train to those techniques, it takes those techniques completely out of the realm of possibility for future presidents to use. So it was a very damaging thing to do. ... They seem to be only interested in releasing things that really paint America in a negative light."
In addition to accusing Obama of siding with terrorists, Cheney also argued that Attorney General Eric Holder, by offering to work with foreign governments, was refusing to "stand up and defend American sovereignty."
(Videos of her "performances" at links, btw.) Releasing "technique information" is "helpful" to train their own members how to use them? I think the prisoners themselves at Gitmo, Abu Ghraib and our other secret detention centers told a few of their friends and family members and The Red Cross what we'd done to them already...it was hardly a secret. Now she's accusing Holder of failure to defend our sovereignty? How about that pesky "rule of law", Liz? Shouldn't your daddy and George be held to the same standards the rest of us are held to by our laws? Oh, that's right, if Dick doesn't like a law, he has it changed either via a "bill" presented by one of his GOP henchthugs or a signing statement put in front of Dubya made whatever he did suddenly "legal" and above board. Hey, Liz, you know what cast us in a negative light? Torturing people, in violation of international (and human) law. Ignoring Geneva Conventions that are there to PROTECT our own troops too should they be held captive by other countries. Now they can say, well, America does it so it must be okay for us to do it too. What a lying conniving rotten woman she truly is. Apple-tree-rotten. And she's produced five offspring to continue in her horrible pump prints.
If torture was such a swell idea, why did Dick, Don, Fredo and Dumbya deny we were doing it? Why didn't we go up the chain of command THEN to get to the ones who ordered the torture in the first place? Instead, we punished low level troops who were indeed "following orders" and where have we heard that excuse before? Yup, the Nazis. I voss juhst followink orhdurrs.
General Karpinski was the highest ranked member of the military they chose to take the rap. She tried to tell the world what was going on in our name, Rumsfeld's lies and plans...but she was punished severely, first demoted then relieved of her command. The Bushites hate "disloyalty" more than they hate the terrorists.
I'd like to see a split screen of Liz and General Karpinski. Lies vs. Truth.
Maybe some of the people who "got what was coming to them" were the kids at Abu Ghraib?
Children said among Abu Ghraib prisoners
(Agencies)
Updated: 2005-03-12 09:23
Children held by the U.S. Army at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison included one boy who appeared to be only about 8 years old, the former commander of the prison told investigators, according to a transcript.
"He looked like he was eight years old. He told me he was almost 12," Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski told officials investigating prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. "He told me his brother was there with him, but he really wanted to see his mother, could he please call his mother. He was crying."
Karpinski's statement is among hundreds of pages of Army records about Abu Ghraib the American Civil Liberties Union released Thursday. The ACLU got the documents under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking records about abuse of detainees in Iraq.
Karpinski did not say what happened to the boy in her interview with Maj. Gen. George Fay. Military officials have previously acknowledged that some juvenile prisoners had been held at Abu Ghraib.
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Rumsfeld and his spokesmen have repeatedly said that the defense secretary and his aides never authorized or condoned any abuses.
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Hey, Don...Dick has admitted to torturing detainees making you a liar buddy. Hahahaha. Like we didn't already know that...but he chucked you, his BFF, under the bus.
Karpinski said Maj. Gen. Walter Wodjakowski, then the No. 2 Army general in Iraq, told her in the summer of 2003 not to release more prisoners, even if they were innocent.
"I don't care if we're holding 15,000 innocent civilians. We're winning the war," Karpinski said Wodjakowski told her. She said she replied: "Not inside the wire, you're not, sir."
Perhaps this unfortunate child was one of the detainees whose testicles were crushed in front of his parents in order to make them "talk" as Yoo said Bush could "legally" do if he found it "necessary". 12 years old. Beyond criminal. Rummy, Dick, George, Fredo and the whole lot should be in prison. They are most definitely torturers and war criminals with no morals whatsoever. General Karpinski tried to blow the whistle and tell the truth about what was going on at Abu Ghraib but was punished for her "disloyalty" instead.
Karpinski demoted in prison scandal. In an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp. in June 2004, Karpinski said, "I believe I was a convenient scapegoat" for the Pentagon for the Abu Ghraib scandal.
The Bush "Administration" got its best lawyers (oxymoron) to declare the torturing of children legal. The charming (not) John Yoo covered Bush's ass on that point. The "president" aka Decider, gets to decide who can be tortured "legally" and it includes children. In front of their parents.
BTW Maj. Gen. Walter Wodjakowski is deemed a war criminal by Germany.
It was while General Wojdakowski served under General Sanchez that he became involved in Abu Ghraib. Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, a general who was later disciplined for her role in the scandal, placed Maj. Gen. Wojdakowski at a meeting in late November at which there was extensive discussion of a Red Cross report that cited specific cases of abuse.[1]
In November 2006, the German government received a complaint seeking the prosecution of Wojdakowski for alleged war crimes. The complaint alleges that during his tenure he was legally responsible for the U.S. torture programs.[1]
Other co-defendants include: Donald H. Rumsfeld, George Tenet, Stephen Cambone, Ricardo S. Sanchez, Geoffrey Miller, Thomas M. Pappas, Barbara Fast, Marc Warren, Alberto Gonzales, William J. Haynes, II, David Addington, and John Yoo.
Bush Advisor Says President Has Legal Power to Torture Children
By Philip Watts
01/08/06 "revcom.us" -- -- John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody – including by crushing that child’s testicles.
This came out in response to a question in a December 1st debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar Doug Cassel.
What is particularly chilling and revealing about this is that John Yoo was a key architect post-9/11 Bush Administration legal policy. As a deputy assistant to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, John Yoo authored a number of legal memos arguing for unlimited presidential powers to order torture of captive suspects, and to declare war anytime, any where, and on anyone the President deemed a threat.
It has now come out Yoo also had a hand in providing legal reasoning for the President to conduct unauthorized wiretaps of U.S. citizens. Georgetown Law Professor David Cole wrote, "Few lawyers have had more influence on President Bush’s legal policies in the 'war on terror’ than John Yoo."
This part of the exchange during the debate with Doug Cassel, reveals the logic of Yoo’s theories, adopted by the Administration as bedrock principles, in the real world.
Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?
Yoo: No treaty.
Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.
Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.
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Yoo said, "If you are trying to draw a moral equivalence between the Nazis and what the United States is trying to do in defending themselves against Al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks, I fully reject that. Second, if you’re trying to equate the Bush Administration to Nazi officials who committed atrocities in the holocaust, I completely reject that too…I think to equate Nazi Germany to the Bush Administration is irresponsible."
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If it thinks crushing a child's testicles is okay, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's a Nazi.
Some people like me just want to know the truth, including David Lynch.German interview re: "Loose Change" a documentary that should be watched by every American...if they have the courage to think critically and have an open enough mind to question authority. We have a RIGHT to know what really happened.
David Lynch video.
Starting at 2:46 on the clock; first he discusses his quest for "knowing" things using the example of Marilyn Monroe's death.
Anyone without questions is either stupid or just doesn't WANT to know the truth. Not wanting to know the truth about EVERYTHING in our lives shows lack of intellect and/or curiosity....and fear. Massive fear. There are far too many American ostriches...how long can they go on believing "History" will tell the true story as Bush the war criminal asserts? Willful ignorance ought to be a crime.
"It's too big. It's like sump'n no one wants to think about..." David Lynch
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